Agreed if you shop around and take feedback all over the internet you will invariably end up ordering red's miss hangar one and building it yourself. Their is plenty of room for different things in this hobby, i suppose a lot of people are having fun with their spinoffs and that's good, i'm all for that, but i really dislike those crooks who prey on beginners and sell them junk that a pro couldn't fly decently, great way to frustrate people right out of the best hobby on earth. Thumbs up to those who help beginners achieve success, their real reward will be loyal customers who spend most of their time and money in the hobby and will do business with them for a long time.

To those who wish to fly these unusual looking aircraft but have no prior flight expericence at all, or no aileron/elevon flight experience: GET A SIMULATOR!!! Aerofly pro deluxe is the way to go imho. But again their are alternatives, the choice is yours. Just GET TO WORK ON A SIM!!! If you can't fly in there don't kid yourself, that boat is coming home from it's maiden in pieces i guarantee you.

I know a beginner who trained on the sim. He ignored my suggestion to fly 30 mintues per day while trying a perfect landing after every time he crashed. After only a little practice he thought he'd be ok, took his plane out. Both his first flights lasted about 30 seconds. Fortunately he has an EPP plane that sustains very little damage when crashing (he listened to my advice to get an epp trainer, at least) I later learned by having him fly on the sim before me that he is not able to make a turn with the aircraft pointed in his direction and does not know what the rudder is for.


While the other side of the spectrum, another student really did his homework on the sim and flew his first flights through a buddy box, well, he flew around quite nicely and greased 3 perfect landings right in the middle of the strip without his instructor's help.

so yeah... spend some dough on aerofly pro deluxe and crash a couple of thousand planes. Do master landings in it too, it's all too easy with these sims for a beginner to crash a million planes, become a decent aerobat and develop confidence, but still have no idea how to land... When you think you are getting good, every time you crash a plane take off again then try to come in for a nice landing immediately afterwards.

If you can't fly away from yourself, come back, fly away, come back then setup your approach and land without getting confused don't even think of flying even a parkflyer without an instructor, the result would be frustration and possible financial loss, definitely a boat/plane looking rough and being heavy from all the repairs, at best...