Troy,

Your Supreme and Pinacles are really heavy for my taste. I flew my Partner with a lot of lead in it for a little while when Tony was helping me with my CG, and it flew like a rock. My Supreme came out at 9.0 pounds, and it is a dream to fly. A glow plane the size of a Pinnacle should not weigh more than 10.0 pounds. There is some extra weight there. I'm sure they fly nice, but there is excess weight in these. The Pinacle is basically a Partner, and my Partner with the same servos and engine setup as your Pinnacle came in at 9.75 pounds ready to fly. They could make these things lighter, and for me, I would prefer foam wings and covering over an 18 ounce wing panel. My Supreme wing panels, ready to fly with servo/hardware are 13 ounces.

I don't mention this to be confrontational, but as a fussy consumer, I expect a light airframe, whether its a $400 Focus, or a $1500 kit, or a $3500 ARF. Light airframes fly better. If not, competitors would be filling planes with lead up to 11 pounds.

A lot of guys walk on eggshells in these forums and hold back their thoughts so as to not offend manufacturers and suppliers, but this decreases competition and retards product improvement. I feel so strong about this, that I have to say something about it. Consumers like me want light airframes and light wing panels. Feedback for the manufacturer. Oxai is really, really close to the ultimate formula for providing pattern airframes. However, there is still a compelling reason to buy a ZNLine kit and not put a river of paint on it to get it well under 10 pounds. The formula BTW, is not less cost, but less weight. Keep everything else the same. Not having to spend 200 - 300 hours building is worth every penny of $3500.