well. i finally got the courage to try some hovers with my model tech magic. i did alright i think, my best was about 20 seconds which would have been longer but lost track of time and ran out of fuel, luckily i had enough altitude to dead stick it, finally found out just how slow this plane can fly. next thing i learned is how to do flat spins, and my last flight i managed to flat spin into a hover, too bad i didn't mean to . does anybody have any tips for a beginning 3d'er? thanks