Thanks for your help guys. I'll look into it at my end. So far I thought I was doing pretty good figuring out how to edit a photo for email , I don't have a clue how to limit file size, I just thought it was all about picture size. What I can't figure out is how some guys can pass through entire photo essays about their project [for example look at the extreme speed forum, there is a thread there now about a .15 sized ship being built with about a dozen full size photos] and I have never been able to pass more then 3 full sized photos through, usually just 2. I'm with EARTHLINK, and they have an accelerator for dial up users like myself, could this be a source of trouble when sending?