For the newbee reading this post: these guys are experienced flyers, and there are two important aspects that make them experienced in flying in almost any type of conditions, namely, the ability to control the throttle and their ability to fly the plane using the rudder. Forgive me for preaching, but I really do think that learning these two aspects of model flying is being neglected. Before 3d flying, most of us had to learn to control the plane on the runway via the rudder. Now, you simply over power a model and it is off the runway in a flash. Unfortuneately, when one attempts to fly, say a Corsair or P-40 Warkhawk for example, attempting to pull these birds skyward before adequate flying speeds are reached prove disasterous. Likewise, when one attempts to land his/her plane in a crosswind one is challenged beyond thier abilities. If you want to challenge the wind, learn to control the throttle and the rudder.