Bipe, it's almost impossible to total one of those British DBAT planes out. Out of an original batch of 6, I still have 4. They have gotten heavy enough from fuel soakage and repairs to not be competitive, but this is after 5 years of service. I use the WARLORD design, it is compact and simple. I covered them with SEAL-LAMEN [DOCULAM?] so you can see internal damage, plus the covering is dirt cheap. The most fun with those PAW .15s is with RC combat though, on converted .40 sized C/L combat planes. Just tape on a pair of elevons and fins and have a blast. These planes are truly beyond the point where cleaning them would do much good, and they ought to be stored in a fire proof shed .