I checked yesterday and they are not for the bottom of the shocks,but then i had an idea to check on the front c-hub and on the rear c-hub of my mp7.5 rtr and they fitted just fine.I don`t know how this can happen i can understand about the rear c-hub bc i put the racers edge rear hubs on my mp777 and their holes are kind smaller but i can`t understand why they fit on the front c-hub of my mp7.5 and they don`t on the front c-hub of my mp777 SP1.Thanks a lot guys for all the help.