yeah, i agree with most above posts. the nitro rustler is a decent basher, although mine seems to be just falling apart on me these days, and could be a good, strong racer if you are willing to blow a LOT of money. therefore, why not just get an rc10, or some other racing st. for bashing, the best up there is the mt2 hands down, but i would deffinately go for the 18ss kit