8178, I have been at this since the 50s, but military duty and military contracting has taken me away from the hobby for up to 5 years at a time. I am a builder at heart, have tried an ARF, but found little joy from it. Flew OK, but no feeling of accomplishment from it. Keep building and doing the build threads, I am incorporating a lot of your ideas in a Super Kaos I am currently building.

John