unfortunately many people today have no idea how much better a lightly loaded pattern airplane flies than ANY scale aerobatics imac airplane. (by the way I've flown them all including the various sizes of comp arf airplanes and the 35% and 40% cardens) So they build a 35% imac airplane for the same money that it takes to build a modern pattern airplane and they end up with alot larger airplane. pattern flyings' death occured when they got rid of the displacement rule. The cost of the 1.4-1.7 engines and exhaust systems is insane. I have a basement full of .60 size airplanes airplanes and engines that I used to win alot of contests with, now it's all worthless junk. I'm sure jeide has a large inventory of the same stuff. (jeide won the 1987 nats in masters) I haven't seen him fly in a while but while we were both going to the contests in and around Denver he was unbeatable and and spectacular to watch. I wonder if the guys we used to fly with would go for a contest using the old ama masters rules, .60 2 stroke or 1.2 four stroke engine. Any interest?