I'm bobbing up & down with the 60 Do but no lower than 10-15 ft. up so far. I try starting a hover from harrier or pull up from 0ft up but it climbs a little too much when I throttle up,ends up 10-15 ft again. I should practice the wall some more,that looks like a good way to start a very low hover,another guy at my field does that very well with a 30% WH Edge. I even start a hover on take off,just pull a lot of up after a short roll,I got away with it once or twice but the harrier or wall seems less risky. The coolest/strangest way I ever got into a low hover was bounce to a hover, I have air-brake(up spoilerons/up elev. drops the spoilerons)) mix with throttle mixed in too,the mix drops out as throttle is increased. So if i throttle up first and start a roll,pull up elev until the nose lifts up and then drop the throttle& elev to set back down(if I time it right and repeat this, the nose bounces off and back to the ground, looks sort of like one of those cars in Ca. that bounce up & down,my buddy calls it a "homey hopper". I've done this to a hover a few times but it is a little scary for me. Maybe my first hovering tail touch will start with a buddy holding the plane vertical and letting it go-not sure I would get any volunteers?