thanks thats great. i downloaded the flight sim but i couldnt find the cord to connect my six channel controll to the computer so i had to use a joystick which kinda sucked. i must go to the club sometime but its the other end of the island(island is only 9miles by5 but when you are to young to drive thats a long way). they hold open days where they drop sweets and stuff so next time theres one i'll go and ask a few q's. normally does a trainer come in kit form or artf