thanks for the info and I have found a few people in my area, and this is a guy at my hobby shop who has been flying helis for a while now and said he would look it over for free once it is all done. he also said he would fly it to make sure it is all fine and dandy if I wanted him too. I am not a total. I am not a total newb. i have been flying plans for a few years. so I understand a lot and i have been watching helis fly for a while and ask a lot of question to local guys. i really just wanna know if I can build the caliber 5 with out all the gyro/servos/engine and not have a problem and add that stuff later. thanks again for all the advice

Sharky