the best RTR bang for the buck, as stated is the RD Logics SHO. For a non RTR the Hyper 8 is a GREAT buggy for the money. (runs with the mugans and etc.)Loaded with pro parts, tremendous tunibilty and lighting accelaration ...I have one and love it. The only weal spot are the rear hub carriers but can be replace with Hyper 7's for 9 bucks.