ok thanks guy`s the way i look at it as a newbie is if you can afford a tamiya and you get one good luck to you , If you cant afford one and get a H/L good luck to you as well ,you pay your money and take your choice any way if i spent £400 to £600 on a tank the wife would kill me . I dont want to get into the H/L v Tamiya thing i just want to enjoy my tank .
Well i am off to find that loose spring now if i need help it`s good to know ALL you guys are here .

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