chevy, That is the same way I did my very first ARF too. I didn't know any better. It cost me that airplane over a year later when I finally got to where I could fly it, the elevator halves came off in air after only about 10 flights. I do them the right way now. They come out looking great, they're stronger than ever & only take a few minutes to do. Talk about learning the hard way huh?[sm=idea.gif]