heli143 .... Thanks for the looks [:-][:-] well as iam going along alls good weight is low and so retracks are going to be added also,,,,,,,,,,, as hobby-lobby has super lite ones that will work fine............ thanks for the input,,, Billy............................... update 7-5-06.........[:@][:@][:@][>:][X(][[:@][:-][][][>:][&:][:@][:@][][:-][:-][>:][>:][][]>:][X(][:-][][:-][] ok dumb me as always well being a old nubie at this is just rong ...i hate to rebuild things ... ..... at first alls good and into the job at hand ... but yea !!! but then i need this and i need that and i want those and gotta have that well when iam all done its a mess well i tryed to install retracks to my jumbo 747 rong[:@][:@][:@][][:-][:-] it would have worked if i have just a little pay-shunts!!lol.............[][:@] well it was a mess so i backed out and now i have a mees in the wings well iam doing fill and re=glue the wood for the gear,,,should be fine and then re paint so much for that!! just want to be done with this hassle as just the extar motors and esc is enough to make me not into it anymore......... well i need more learing about spending cash $$$ on item i dont even need....... well this cost me a hole day and 45,00$ so iam madd at me self for being as dumb as i look>>>>>>>>>[:-][8D] might try again in the future...