There has been some discussion at the field about starting new flyers on something a little more advanced, such as a Goldberg Tiger. The advantage here is that the new pilot learns right away how things work..... The planes people want to fly don't self-recover...they go where you point them. Properly set up, the Tiger makes a pretty good trainer! I taught my friend how to fly on a GP Ugly Stick (heck, I learned how to fly on an Ugly Stick) the Tiger isn't any harder to fly than one of those! Another obvious advantage is that after the training is over,a Tiger makes a great sport plane with the throws set high....Something to think about....Johnny