Dnell, well i disagree that most these hellfires are bought for the purpose of bashing. i.e not for racing.

This truggy is desinged for first time racers. i.e people who used to own a Savage MT and now saw how fun it was to actually race buggy. But still wanted a Truck based vehicle.

My point was after owning a Savage, and the thousands of $$$ of hopups required on the SS (yeah and if you owned one you would know).... whtf would you even bother with a hellfire for.

and now reading thru this thread, and seeing the design first hand my suspicions have been confirmed. too many hopups required just to make it even as strong as a real truggy. and thats not to even commenting on its overall handling capabilities[>:]

anyway each to thier own.