Silversufer, I forget where it balanced at so I can't say for sure right now. I do remember it was barely on the aft side of the books CG if I'm not mistaken. I have'nt had a plane want to roll this much in knife edge before. I have'nt dealt with an upline issue like this either. As of now I put a program on a switch for uplines to hold it level but I hate haing to do that. If I do it by throttle stick movement at lets say full throttle for uplines then when I flew full throttle on a level line it will want to pull upward and I dont want that. I guess I'm stuck with a switch for uplines.