Oh Gordon, your the man. I am "re-building" a cheesy ARF I got on eBay a while back. It will serve as my Turbine waiver aircraft. I can post a few pics, sure. Here you go. The first pic is the scheme I am going to do. I have since opted out of going witht he .46 DF and am putting in a .91 The plane is probably going to be around 11lbs. wet and I am hoping to finish it soon. I have a complete "re-build" thread going here: [link=http://www.rcscalebuilder.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3613&PN=1&TPN=1]Hawk Build Thread[/link]