i agree with everything u sayed about the hummer can u can out run that in any car but the rams????? maybe the 1500 but the 3500 diesel dullys?!?!?!? HOLY CRAP those thing is blow any thing outta tha water trust me ive never beat one in my LIFE and i have a 2001 accord V6 with a turbo kit in it and NOTING!!!!!! cant beat the dam thing oh and a F-350 King Rancher V10 Deisel TURBO (all this comes on the rancher) dully bro there is noting out there that can take that car down the line (unless its something really really EXTREAM) u think u can race that but when it pops in to 3gear THAT THING IS GONE trust me i felt so sad after running one i was like DAM...............