You're too stubborn to have somebody teach you to fly, but you not stubborn enough to listen to our advice??

There isn't anything wrong with having somebody teach you to fly, it's probably the quickest and easiest way to learn to fly. Yes, it's true that some people are able to teach themselves to fly but those people are rare (around 1 in a thousand or so). And I can assure you that those who do teach themselves to fly don't usually do it without damaging or destroying at least one plane. We have somebody at our field now in a similar situation. He doesn't want to learn to fly on a "trainer" airplane because he doesn't want to look like a beginner. So far this summer he's destroyed 4 planes trying to learn and still isn't anywhere close to being able to solo yet.

As I said above, I'm not sure that you want to take our advice here. After reading this thread, and they other thread you have similar to this one ( [link]http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=4536002[/link] ), I have a feeling that you have already decided what you want to do and you are simply asking these questions so you can find somebody to agree with your decision. If this is not the case then I will apologize and tell you that everybody here in the Beginner's Forum (myself included) will do what we can to help you learn to fly. But if this is the case I can assure you that you're going to find help here to be very scarce indeed.

The above statement may be a bit harsh and I am sorry if it does upset you, but I am trying to make a point. Many people who want to "teach themselves" to fly just don't realize how dangerous this can be. I'm not referring to damaging the plane, but rather I am referring to damaging property or even worse injuring or killing another person. While it's true that these are "toys", they are very dangerous toys that are capable of inflicting severe damage to a person..... or even killing them. Recently the AMA's insurance payed out a claim to someone injured by a RC airplane that was well over a million dollars, and that was after the person's home owner's insurance payed out on the claim. I don't know of too many RC pilots that have a spare million laying around. It's quite possible that when you try to teach yourself you can loose control of your airplane and hit somebody with it, putting you in a position to be liable for all injuries to that person. If for nothing else you may want to get in contact with a club to learn to fly just to avoid this very situation.

Ken