Well I for one appreciate all the talk amungst ourselves,even if it raises a few eyebrows. I do have quite a number of years with engines,but not many with RC engines and glad to hear those opinions with vast experience,I definately don't have the bucks to just jump out there and buy the first one. all this talk with the numbers and hands on is priceless. I am curruntly researching everything for my first gasser.from what i've read so far it's pretty close for five or six of these manufacturer's. but from what i can tell so far(IMO) is that the TAURUS seems to be the smoothest running engine. And I definately don't won't to shake my ship apart. Yes I'm looking for weight,throttle response,pwr to weight,reliability,warranty and whatever else I can find.I am enjoying learning aero-3d with smaller planes and looking forward to larger ones. So far it would appear to me that TAURUS is what I want. I'm all ear's.