I have to move on and get over this crash. I am the always the first one to admit when I goofed up(theres been plenty of that lately) but this one is a mystery to me. I tested everything before I scrapped the wreckage and it all looked good. I *hit canned the rcv & some extensions since I'm not sure what failed if anything,it may have been a hit,rare for me, but its possible. The best thing for me now is to forget about it,if it was another dumb thumb,that would be another story but since it wasnt I did what I had to do-order another plane!!!!! Chip Hyde Vision for $425, I think its a steal at that price and I've seen one fly at my field and it looked very good to me,at 15.8 lbs with DA50-oh yeah!!!! I feel better already!!!!