ORIGINAL: mkincy
I cant comment on any of the RTR choices you have listed. IMO, RTR is a cuss word, for the obvious reason that they are inferior in everyway to a good kit. i just purchased 2 of [link=http://www.acehardwarehobbies.com/2.2/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=18_35&products_id=3957]these[/link] it seems to be the best deal going. good luck.
How do you figure that an RTR is inferior to a kit? they are built with the same parts!!! other than the fact that a kit does not come with a radio or electronics, and they put a bigger engine in them "Sometimes".
unless someone has been doing nitro rc for a while or has good mechanical skills I would not recommend getting a kit to start off with while getting back into the game.
and as far as what is better, that is all personal preference and how deep your pockets are.