hi havent checked thrust angle yet worked late but will its a seagull extra 300s 63.5 wingspan/765 sq inches wing area/wieght is 6-7 lbs 2.7-2.9 kgs the guys at the club have had extras and they say they had no probs with take off nearly straight up im really convinced that this thrust angle is to blame i sort that first and post ya the result and thanx guys for the great advice and i appreciate that some people do do things wrong when flight checks didnt mean to be off just answering the question no emotion in type ha ha thanx guys