hi all again checked the thrust angle measured from prop ends to a center point on fuselage and its turns out there is a difference of 25mm almost an inch measured the other way from a mirrored point on the engine to the firewalland there is a differance of 4 to 5 mm so by the time you get from that point to end of spinner there is a lateral differance of 25 mm the same will replace the engine mounts and get the engine spot on in line and hope this rectifys the prob will test her sunday morning post the results in the evening ok guys thanks for all ya guides and tip great to be a member of r/c with guys like you around takecare and again many thanks wait for the tears of sadness or joy ha ha ha