Just noticed this thread, very entertaining! I have had one VMAR model, the PC-9 & I think it's a good thing. I replaced most of the control hardware but at the price it was a good flying, pretty, easy to fly model. Another surprise was the Reach Wildcat foam park flyer, much better flyer than I thought it would be even on the standard 380 motor.

Dungers? A Thunder Tiger Christen Eagle park flyer was just crap, it just flew on the standard motor & the recommended 2 cell lipo & broke the prop shaft off when it nosed over on the first landing.

All these models had one thing in common, none claimed to be top quality world beaters. The worst ARF I have ever had was a Multiplex Skycat, yes, from Germany. I only bought it because the LHS could not shift it so it was discounted to half price. There's not enough space to say how bad this thing is (was!) It finally ended MY misery when the fuselage flexed in flight, the hatch fell off, the battery fell out and it crashed. It was made out of that flexy foam so I could not even gain pleasure from jumping on it! AVOID IT AT ALL COST!!! You have to hand it to the Germans, when they set their mind to it they can make the best in the world, even the best rubbish! - John.