Sorry Barry, I guess I didn't explain my situation concise enough. I havn't flown the plane yet. When I set the balance machine at 5inches and put the DO on the pads, the nose drops. I have played around with the battery possition, but have not set any extra weight on the tail yet. I always try to balance without lead and am usually succesful, but It looks as though I will have no choice with this plane. BTW my servos weigh 1.44 on the elevators, and 1.5 on the rudder.