Hey Rob.... I had the YS 63 on both my profiles and it seemed perfect... My YS's does
not like the 14X4W, so the 82 beats it there *sort of* but other than that their the
same, but the response goes hands down to the YS and the no problems at all to the 82....

The way I started and still learning to do rolling circles/harriers, is by just using the
elevator with the ails./throttle... I was getting no where using elev/rud/etc., I'd get about
3-5 rolls and that was it... I'm getting a little better using the rud. maybe half+ circle now
But........ I can get a pretty nice oneor more now with just the elev. applying just before
the wing gets to vert. to turn and releasing slightly aft. to keep level.. Rolling harriers...
work in progress... Trying to do them like Kyle... "Maybe" in about 10yrs... [&o]
It's an ever learning hobby..

No fly this morning... And a beauitful morning it was[:@].. "Do" still needs upkeep, and
the YS is out of the S.T. I was only going to add more rt. thrust... And started checking things
and it got to hot, and I never made it back to it... I did have the SPAD and 4* ready to go
but............ And if I stay on here, all may not be ready before and or by the weekend...
K... I have to go play a few games, so I can get to finishing the planes:-)