Bob,
This thread does not mean if you fly ARF's that you are not a modeler! I wanted to write this thread just to hear from everyone and get to see their opinions on kit building. You are a very well respected member of this hobby, I'm sure!!! You made a very good reply to what some of the modelers have said in their posts. I don't agree with the DUMB DOWN THE CONSUMER IDEA either. I just hoped by writing this thread that maybe some of our fellow hobby lovers would try a kit. If someone wants to build a kit, there is most likely a member of his/her club that would be willing to help. A friend of mine that only flew ARF's ordered a Citabria Kit from Sig yesterday after seeing my finished kits. I am going to help him all the way. I hope that is at least the start of being a giver.

Gibbs