The bottom line in all this discussion about snaps is this: the nose has to break the flight path, the wing has to stall and the whole plane autorotates. If they don't it's a zero - period!!

Usually, it's the upper class guys that try to do a snap roll so quickly that all you can see is the wings rolling around and the nose never breaks. They convince themselves that the nose breaks and they really excited wihen they get a zero because the nose didn't break the flight path - ACCORDING TO THE JUDGES!!

One other comment. This is IMAC - not AMA F3A pattern, not IAC, not full scale - but IMAC! None of the other SIGs makes any difference as they each have their own set of rules and we (IMAC) have ours. Some are different and some are the same, the snap roll is but one instance where there is a difference.

Bobby