Stickbuilder, I own Arf's, Planes from kits, Plan built stuff. My point was we can't expect todays crowd to start like most of the older bunch.I once read a post somewhere on RCU about MAKING newbee's build a kit in order to play in our sandbox. The cold hard facts are that the new crowd buys AFR's some will hang around and try there hand at a kit or a set of plans but not many. As far as the money goes I chose to spend whatever on RC to have fun and enjoy. Here's a few pics of some of the stuff I have done. (Wish this thing would upload better) I started with a ARF and found I liked kits and plans. I'm sure there's a few more out there. As far as flaming no problem you havent.