there's another thread running on here regarding flying alone or with fellow flyers. My experience is a great illustration of the benefits of flying with others, especially when they have experience you don't. Had the fellows that flew with me last week (got the bird in the air and on the ground for me) not told me my bird was fluttering I would have thought "wow, that's a really cool sound". On the other hand, got the solution right here. Guess its good to have a little of both types of help.