Great discussion!

I have been saying the same things for years now. It is sad that even in RC plane forums one has to watch what he says about his experiences with particular products. I used to think these forums were like the flying field, where you could make honest judgements and even vent your frustrations. Sadly that is not the case, it appears that the ones who pay the bills get to have the final word.

One of you guys gave some great advice, or made a great point. As 3-D flyers gain more experience with the hobby they in time will be able to determine if a plane is worthy of their $$ by comparing weight to wing area, etc. The one thing that I have accepted is that even the best ARF's can be much better and if you dont mind the critisism stand up and point out the flaws, so the rest of us can make an informed purchasing decision and know what we are getting into when we do make the purchase.

ARF's will only get better if we demand the best. That includes reviews and honest discussion.