I hang my head in shame and admit that I have converted what was a 1/2a screaming, streamer cutting, beast of a combat wing know as the "bulldog" into a E-powered park flyer. I did this primarily to have a plane to take on the road and not have to deal with all the glow stuff. I flew it at the cost on a bluff and also let a friend fly it for his first ever RC airplane experience. He did very well despite the wind. It actually weighs an ounce less now, so thats 11.75oz with 360 square inches. It's a real floater and easy to fly. I used a GWS brushless motor on 7.4v with 8x4 prop. It maintains level flight at 1/2 throttle and will climb in a thermal. I'm pretty surprised at how well this wing flies at both ends of the spectrum.