thanks guys, i'll try a bit of duct tape. Perhaps my mates arn't so wrong afterall They fly agplanes, and i load them, i actually helped a pilot fix his wing after he hit a bird.....that was sitting in a 60' Pine tree[:@] we patched it with a cardboard box, and grey tape also known as 100 mile an hour tape. Worked a charm. I'll get patching, cheers guys