Well two more flights on the F5 and one more on the F18E and all I can say is what A fine day it was I tried a half flap takeoff on the F5 but it really did not like it, it stuck to the ground like glue but the second flight was without flaps and it was nice and smooth. The F18 did like the half flap takeoff and the rotation was very smooth. The only problem I had today was keeping the tires on the rims!! Both aircraft lost a main tire today, one was glued on with goop and the other was attached with gorilla glue but neither held up. no worries as neither plane had trouble landing on the rim and the rollouts were totally uneventful.