OK I did a little more research and found that Traxxas make a pull start conversion ($20.00). So the T-Maxx with a pull start conversion is $409.99. Now the Savage 21 with pull start from the factory is $419.99 plus $37.99 for the reverse module. So $458 for the Savage or $410 for the Maxx. Now I know the LHS near stocks parts for the Maxx, but I don't know about the Savage. I am starting to see why so many peope have Maxx's. The have a good reputation and tons of support. It is hard to make a decision. Plus the Maxx's suspension is adjustable.