So you don't "own" one you just "played" on one or two a couple of times? I don't think thats fair to say that they caused you to get worse then. Maybe you're just not very good at flying planes. I can tell anyone for sure that a couple of times on a sim "playing" will NOT make you better or worse of a pilot. What I was saying is that you claiming that the sim made you worse is kinda hard to take for fact with your known stance on sims. Thats all, pretty simple. I have really never heard of someone saying that a sim hurt them. I can't recall ever seeing that, in fact quite the opposite. Lots of sim success stories. Your post just kinda seemed outa place for what you normally hear. And now to hear that you dont own one, only played on a couple.....well, I think that says enough.