Neoro, this is fun, a breather means gyrotors or picco z's. But someone posted that we had done all we could to the AA. I tend to disagree. Tim

Gp, to post pic's you have to use the "post reply" key. It is immediately under the last post. You can't post pic's from the larger fast reply field. As to wingtip air foils they seem to make the turns larger. I'll let you test my latest idea though. I'm going to get a straw and tape it to the end of the wing( cut to fit and at the same aoa as the wing) and see if the air pressure will cause a tighter turn. I'll get a regular straw and a McD straw to test this. Or you can do this testing. It could be interesting off the jet. remember, have fun!Tim