Thanks guys for the reply. I have the old Dave B. sim. It never did have sound. It seemed like it sure lacked graphics. The only thing I liked was the helecopter. Then I got to see Real Flight and the planes looked like our model ones we fly. I was thinking about getting the add on for Dave B. Sim, I think that was on a disc instead of a floppy. Something tells me not to. May try the download for FMS. Is it better to put idownload on floppy disks?? Do not know much about downloads. Will a pentium 11 class computor run this ok/ Thanks Captin John