macdanman, you could be right and I'm confusing two places. I actually ordered the 40 sized Epsilon but they sent the 60 instead and then forgot to send the 40 again. I ended up keeping the 60 and am enjoying building it now. Glad I didn't get the 40. Everyone seems to like the 60 too from what I read here. I have a new Saito 125 for it.

Marcelo has responded a lot to things I've asked. He is alway very friendly and prompt.

By the way, I heard from a builder in Brazil on the 60 sized Widebodys. They had 6 at their club and he shortened his ailerons and elevators to make them smoother pattern planes. They didn't run the control surfaces to the tips. I'm doing the same thing on mine. The Epsilon is a refinement of the Widebody according to Marcelo.