after reading this entire thred i went out and bought the st flew it for the first time this weekend and i have to say i was not dissapointed . i was able to do any manuver that i know how with a saito 100 with no lack of power and no snap problems that some have reported mine wheighs 8 1/2 lb i did have to un twist 1 elv. but that was all i am an old time pattern flyer and was impresed with the preshion that the plane flew yet was fully 3D when you wanted it to be i even think i envented a few new manuvers like a knife edge wall hi alfa manuvers are better with the sfg on but over all i like the apperance of the plane wothout them i use flaperons duringsome manuvers like water falls and they are really tite i have had other 3D planes and i thinh the ST is the best one in this class need a little more pullout from a hover but not bad may buy a 125 latter but for now the 100 will do