Anybody out there with any ideas??? This glider forum is kind of quiet. Maybe I need to title this thread "157 in. glider on ebay" That thread is off and running. Just kidding. I'll probably just go with elevons, no rudder, if no one has any advice to give. I'll try to post a few more pictures as I get the glider finished and flying. There aren't really any good slope sites around where I live, although I spoke with another glider guy in the are who suggested sloping off the sand dunes at the beach which are maybe 30 ft. high. That should be a challenge. I don't know how well this airplane would thermal.