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Old 10-12-2006 | 12:17 AM
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"It is not that way at all."

Well actually it is, ANY insurance carrier will require some type of control. Whether it's a check flight, or some other type of proof, and if you don't have it, you don't fly. Even if the proof is a person's home owners, if its required then its not really "open to the public"


"did not " Umm again you did allude to just anyone being able to show up and fly or at the very least thats what your idea of how things should be is. See below

"I would have thought since its inception in 1936 the AMA could have found a way to directly promote the hobby to the extent that a flying field would be available in some locals that does not require the mark of AMA to fly. BTW I don’t care to here the club crap trap. A few urban flying sites open to the general public, would give credence to “We, the members of the Academy of Model Aeronautics, are the pathway to the future of modeling and are committed to making modeling the foremost sport/hobby in the world.” "

Also in this paragraph.
"Show me some proof that AMA…do not deflect back to the separate club crap…has made any effort or was indeed successful in installing a flying site for general use by the public. Only efforts I have seen are self serving promotionally based."

I'm afraid that any site that is being controlled to any degree (meaning they carry insurance on the members) will require something to be able to fly there. It's the only way they can viably be covered by an insurance program.

I realize that someone could show up when no one was there and fly, but the point is would they be covered...simple answer no.

So again help me undertsand, exactly how are these folks in worse shape? I get the fact that anything beyond a one word answer requires not only thought but the need to commit oneself to a statement...but please, humor me.


You have taken much out of context.

My references about AMA has to do with AMA...not the Hawks.

I never said the Hawks were in worse shape. I have never argued about control as it relates to an insurer either. If anything, I have offered the concept of control through who ever is the insurer.

I really think you need to reread and try to understand.

I will try one more time to get the point across to you...if you cannot accept the fact... oh well.

But what has happened...Fact...for whatever reason the Hawks are no longer making the club available to non AMA members. That is the point. Notice I did not indicate the field is no longer available...just the club. Understand?

Yes it is their right…whether right or wrong… better or worse.

More to the point;

I had always admired them for going the extra mile, even though not easy, by promoting the hobby outside the auspices of the AMA.

What the hell is wrong with that???????

Do you believe AMA should be the only conduit for the hobby?

I have answered your questions now please reciprocate and afford me the same.