Hey Tony,
Yes, of course. I meant the 3 designs that predated 'turnaround'
were the Bootlegger, EU1 and Illusion. I had a Bootlegger which flew well. I owned an EU1 kit but everytimeI'd look at that HUGE fiberglass fuselage and that itty bitty .61 that was supposed to power it I'd put it back in the box. I eventually sold it.
As for most of the other designs - they're all pretty fast, too. After the '85 worlds when fast and far out flying became the 'norm' the original intent of aresti style flying seemd to be lost.
Your Challenge, Wolgang's Joker and a few others seemed better suited for the 'intent' of the rules (I built both of them). Then I flew Dave Von Linsowe's Mistress which was much faster.
The 2 meter planes really fly great, but I still like the old designs!
Happy Flying