I agree, the shrike would be an awesome 4th or 5th kit. this is a fast plane once built, but 1/2 the challenge is building it. Parts don't fit nicely together, there is a lot of sanding, and there are very vague with the instructions, you can find yourself 3 steps ahead and read something that you were supposed to put in when you started, and have to hack it apart to fix it. I did with my first 1, and since, i have scratch built 2 and those were nicer to fly, lighter and easy to build. If you want something that will slow down to give you stick time and something that will handle mild aerobatics, i'd say go with a 4*40 or a slow poke. just my $0.02