Thanks for the advice guys. I did read the the threads recomended and got ALOT of info. I think at my skill level, any of the planes talked about would be fine( ShoweTime, Velox, Funtana). All seem to be very 3-D capable. Definetly sounds like the Saito 100 would be to small. The Saito 125 or 150 might be a better choice. I have most of my experience with 2-strokes and am thinking maybe the new 120 ax would be a good engine for my needs. I think weight to power ratio is really not an issue here. The small gasers, I will have to look into as I did not think of that. Anymore comments are greatly appreciated. Thanks Keith